Sonic is a Mary Sue

[Weirdo94]

There, I said it...

Seriously, every time I notice him getting the main character uberness bestowed upon him it kind of annoys me. One can only take so much of "I am better then everyone at everything" in a character before wanting to strangle said character.

Discuss.

[TDF]

I believe you mean Gary Stu, as Sonic is not a woman. *Shot*
Yeah, most main characters have everything happen to them, because the creators are going 'Well, it's SONIC and the Black Knight, not KNUCKLES and the Black Night', and believe people only want to play as the original character. The game would be boring if you played as Sonic where Amy was getting mystical powers, and you did nothing.

[Weirdo94]

First off, Sonic probably likes dressing up in women's clothing while alone, so let's keep the title Mary Sue.

Second off...I'd at least like to replay the 3/4th of the Sonic only levels with...well...not Sonic...and I wouldn't mind it so much if he just got beat once in a while...Christ! That's probably one of the reasons I'm such a huge Jet fan...He actually beat him...in a race! Mind you he cheated...but anything to shoot down the flaming mary sue is fine for me.

[Pikamuse]

I think about it, and I can't help but agree with you. Maybe that's why I only play Sonic & Knuckles as Knuckles and never as Sonic. Not for the challenge since the game is supposed to be more difficult when you play as Knuckles, but because I'm not playing as Sonic for once.

In fact, in any Sonic game where I have the option to not play as him I tend to take it that option. Plus, blue isn't really my color.

[Terios the Hedgehog]

I'd play Amy Rose and the Black Knight if it was fun.

[RedPenguin]

Mar 30, 2009 17:50:14 GMT -5 TDF said:

I believe you mean Gary Stu, as Sonic is not a woman.

You mean this?



Also, up for debate, is Sonic a Sonic-stu?

If you guys want a serious answer, a Gary-stu is basically a character with no weaknesses and can bestow abilities far above the other cast members.

Well, Sonic certainly can't swim, a big weakness to his character, which is also something a few characters can do. He also can't fly or gain altitude in the 2D games, which is something many characters can do. He has been beaten on occasion by a few other characters as well as others giving him a run for his money like Metal Sonic, Knuckles, Chaos, Shadow and others. His personality sure makes him a bit of a tick in some media. Chronicles gave a very great scene of Sonic boasting a little too much arrogance that the other characters started riling up on him for it. He most certainly isn't the smartest character, despite other media has shown him to be quick witted under pressure, which is something the games haven't shown. He can produce Chaos Control, I'll give you that, but Shadow can as well with much more favorable results.

On the topic of Shadow, I think he is much more a likely candidate of being a Gary-stu. Being able to match Sonic's speed, power, and many other abilites and sometimes exceeding him in them a couple of times (with no known weakness to speak of), he sure feels a whole lot more unstoppable that many of the other characters.

c wut i did thar?

[Pikamuse]

Shadow can't be a Gary Stu; he's too angsty and emo to be a Gary Stu.

[Weirdo94]

Every time you call him emo, Shadow kills a kitten. I hope you know that.

Anyway, you see, Shadow's got a clear enough weakness, it's just not in combat...at least not the usual things, like strength, skill, or endurance, it's mentality. 06' aside (Yanno, where they threw every mind**** shock at the book at him and he just shrugged it of going "Lol yeah whatever I'll still rape you with my foot"...I'm almost positive that was done just to shut up the "emo!" criers...didn't work, obviously. They're too thick...or they just didn't play the game, nobody did, after all.) he's went through quite a shocking...erm...can I call it "childhood"? Either way, what happened left it's scars. Honestly, I think the secret to beating him would be as simple as triggering any sort of memory pertaining to Maria's death.

Not to mention, it's turned him into an not a very nice person loner incapable of giving his trust easily. Of course, it makes sense since he's got loads and loads of enemies after him simply because of who he is, but good ol Angsty doesn't make allys easily...despite what he says, there is strength in numbers. I've got the feeling that if Shads ever does have a downfall, that's going to be it.

Also, I think it might be worth noting that every nearly every action he makes is assisted by some sort of device. An emerald to use his powers, inhibitor rings just to keep him from exhausting himself, and even special shoes needed for him to run at any more then a jog.

Back to the point. Yet blue buns doesn't tap into any of those weaknesses, every fight ends up a flipping draw. If he actually went for those soft spots, yeah, I could see it being at least a draw, if not lights out for poor Angsty, but I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense that a fighting machine forged in a lab in space with billions beyond billions of taxpayer dollars making sure he's able to hurt and/or kill things with the greatest of efficiency can only tie with a blasted hippie running in like a bonehead with the strategy of "If I punch him in the face enough times, he might fall down!"

Also, five bucks says that due to his main character invincibility, if he decided to try and learn to swim or even fly, he'd pull it off and be better at it then the best in the series...like he does for every-damn-thing else.

[Pikamuse]

Fine point Weirdo. Very well; I'll knock it off with the whole "emo" thing. But can I still joke about it?

Plus, Sonic can swim. At least if he has a life vest. *cough*Mario&SonicathteOlypmicsgames**cough* Flying though? That I'm not so sure of. Somehow picturing Sonic attempting to fly, either in an aircraft or through physical means, seems pretty damn funny to me for some reason.


*pictures scenario where Sonic leaps off a cliff in an attempt to fly* "Whee! I can fly!"*splat!*

[Weirdo94]

*Shrug* It seems like Tails is the only person who's mojo he's not trying to screw up. Then again, that's probably cause he's ignoring the little kitsune instead. Five bucks says Sonic manages to find a mechanic's book and after reading the index, he can suddenly build a spaceship from an aborted fetus.

[madchaosdragon]

Hi, guys. You can slap me silly for being absent for so long. I got my last two finals tomorrow and then the summer is mine to tamper with as I please.

Mod Edit: Also, instert opinion about subject here...There, now it's not an off-topic post.

[Akago]

One might note that the first red Tornado was originally Sonic's and it's assumed if you own a plane, you can probably fly one.