So wait, Shadow ISN'T as fast as Sonic

[TDF]

Well, think about it.

Every time Shadow starts reaching speeds equal to Sonic's, he starts skating with those pimp shoes. Doesn't this mean that *technically* he isn't as fast as Sonic without the help of his shoes?

I mean, we do see him actually running by Sonic in the cutscene before the final battle in either Hero or Dark Sonic, but he starts skating as Sonic reaches his top speed.

Also is it just me or can Shadow actually HOVER with his shoes but never does?

(Bad attempt at activity, lololo.)

[Shadow Doll]

He does in Shadow the Hedgehog the video game. With some sort of shooting or lock on weapon, jump then hold down shoot. He hovers using his shoes.

[TDF]

I always thought that was more "Anime-martial arts-float in midair" kinda tactic, because his shoes aren't actually animated with the exhaust flames like in his first cutscene in SA2.

[RedPenguin]

It's still debatable whether or not Shadow is faster than Sonic, but I'm sure that SEGA has been setting in stone the character's differences in more recent games; unlike in Sonic Adventure 2 and Heroes where the characters were pretty much just pallet swaps and didn't really play differently.

While it's true that in Sonic Battle it's stated that due to his airshoes that Shadow can reach speeds faster than Sonic can (keep in mind that the characters only had such a small amount of space, and Sonic can only really let loose in more open environments-- not to mention some of those cards had some errors and "strength" typos so it's best not to look too far into them), in more recent games, including Sonic'06, The Mario and Sonic titles, and Sonic Rivals, Sonic ends up with much better Speed stats compared to Shadow.

Even in the final battle in Sonic Adventure 2, playing as Shadow with a CPU Sonic, it always seems to take Shadow longer to try and catch him. Albeit, Shadow can keep up with Sonic and isn't someone you would like to mess with in a race, I"m sure that with enough effort Sonic will be able to surpass Shadow's speed without much ease.

Not to mention, Sonic has been dubbed "the fastest thing alive" for a reason.

[TDF]

Huh.
I always thought that Shadow would be the kind of person with an overall higher top speed but slower acceleration and vice versa with Sonic. I always thought that was kinda the thing that made them "comparable".

I never liked using '06 because to me Shadow and Sonic seemed to be built for different types of gameplay. Shadow's seemed more the kind of "Closed in are with lotsa cars and nuts" while Sonic would retain the straightforward stage design.

I've never played Rivals, and iff Eggman can beat Sonic in a 100-meter dash then I don't like counting that either.

Also, the SA2 reference just kinda brings me back to what i said initially. Shadow just takes longer to catch up.

Also, I always thought the "fastest thing alive" comment was just a friendly title, really. considering everybody was ignorant of Shadow's existence until he was, y'know, reheated.

[Shadow Doll]

Yeah. Personally, it seemed to me that Shadow is faster, and by times in the 2p races, I am actually better as Shadow. On the city escape level, best with Sonic was somewhere around 3 min and 25 sec. Shadow, about 2 min and 52 sec. THESE RESULTS ARE ROUNDED. Anyway, to me it dont matter that much, cuz the black guys got my support 24/7!

[shadegenkai]

I think that shadow can run to about 80% of sonic's speed and when he starts using his shoes then he can go as fast and even faster than sonic. Sonic's description may be the world's fastest supersonic hedgehog but shadow is THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM.

[Finhephor]

Do not bump old topics, k?

Anyway, at least you know what I do about Shadow's shoes. Nice to know someone else has that same knowledge!

[hydroxianchaos]

Who cares about life forms?

Metal Sonic can go faster than both combined.

*Points at his overdrive*

[Weirdo94]

Pffft, everyone can have fun arguing over who's second best...cause Jet the Hawk could TOTALLY smoke them all!

*Hides*

[Finhephor]

*Pulls out a weirdness-seeking missile launcher* YOU CAN'T HIDE FOREVER!!!

*Fires weirdness-seeking missile from weirdness-seeking missile launcher* AND YOU CAN'T RUN!!!

[Weirdo94]

Actually, I can run forever...CAUSE I FAST, REMEMBER?

[Finhephor]

Actually, no, I don't recall that.

[icgirl]

but I did some research and found that shadow raced sonic three different times and matched him all three times.
1. through the streets of centropolis: shoes on
2. space colony ark :shoes on
3. prison island :shoes off they rammed each other countless times

[Akago]

3. prison island :shoes off they rammed each other countless times

When was this? I don't remember Shadow ever being without those jet shakes of his.